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why siouxsie sucks (bulletin archive)
for ppl wondering why i don't like siouxsie sioux: i'm gonna post blurbs and quotes from two articles. sorry this is formatted like sh*t, i cant be assed to make it all pretty. this will also be posted in my blog for when the bulletin expires. click on the headlines for links to the sources.
first off, what is nazi chic? from wiki
LINK: Nazi chic
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Nazi chic is the use of Nazi-era style, imagery, and paraphernalia in clothing and popular culture, especially when used for taboo-breaking or shock value rather than out of genuine sympathies with Nazism or Nazi ideology.
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Siouxsie Sioux of Siouxsie and the Banshees was also known to wear a Swastika armband with fetish S and M clothing, including fishnets and a whip. These musicians are commonly thought to have worn such clothing for shock value directed towards the British WWII generation rather than being genuinely associated with any National Socialist or fascist ideologies, and those with such interests likely became part of the Nazi punk or white power skinhead subcultures. Activity: Talk or presentation types › Lecture and oral contribution Michael Alexander Langkjær - Speaker In 1976, Siouxsie Sioux of Siouxsie & the Banshees appeared on several occasions sporting a Nazi flash. Although hardly alone in doing so in UK punk, Sioux has taken the most flak for it. "High camp, not death camp" was her initial explanation. She later avowed ignorance of what Nazism entailed. Later still she admitted to it being a "glamour thing," finding the Nazi uniform very good-looking, while indicating that political correctness bocomes imprisoning. Assuming that in each and every case Sioux had meant what she said, the evolution of her diverging answers concerning the original sartorial "style act" suggests a hierarchy of impulses and motivations issuing from a more or less conscious value-set, which with time and reconsideration became ever more clarified.
10 Sep 2013
this next article is way more in depth and upsetting.
CWs: nazi sh*t (obviously) fatphobia, ableism, graphic description of sexual assault, mentions of substance abuse. LINK: Uncut (January '05) Siouxsie Sioux The Life & Loves of a She-Devil fatphobia/ableism CW: "WHY'S HE ON THE COVER?" demands Siouxsie Sioux. "Fat fool!" "He" is Robert Smith and "the cover" is that of Uncut's sister publication NME Originals, their recent edition dedicated to goth. Or "goff", as the erstwhile queen of punk snorts derisively. Maybe Siouxsie has never fully forgiven the Cure frontman and one-time Banshees guitarist for deserting her band on the eve of a 1984 world tour. As Smith recently told Uncut (Take 87), he was diagnosed with chronic blood poisoning and quit on doctor's orders. Siouxsie's having none of it. "It wasn't like he became ill," she complains. "He was one of those people who just didn't say 'no' to anything, so when it's self-induced it's hard to have sympathy. To actually say two days before a tour that's been planned in advance that he can't do it - f*** off! What a lightweight." Or maybe she should have been on the cover herself? ---------
and back to the Nazi sh*t: More contentious still, at a time when NF membership was on the increase, the Bromley Contingent opened up punk's wardrobe to Nazi chic. For much of 1976, Siouxsie wore swastika armbands in an attempt to enrage the Establishment's 'we fought a war for the likes of you' mindset. She succeeded, though today her naivety- what NME's Julie Burchill decried as "making a fashion accessory out of the death of millions of people"-seems unforgivable. Siouxsie is surprisingly frank, if unrepentant. "The culture around then," she explains, "it was Monty Python, Basil Fawlty, Freddie Starr, The Producers- 'Springtime For Hitler'." She kicks out her leg in a mock goosestep. "It was very much Salon Kitty. It was used as a glamour thing. And you know what?" she sighs." I have to be honest but I do like the Nazi uniform. I shouldn't say it but I think it's a very good-looking uniform." You shouldn't say it for fear of upsetting the PC mob? "Yeah. It's almost like you feel like saying,'Aw, come on. Nazis - they're brilliant.' Political correctness becomes imprisoning. It's very - what's the word? It's being very Nazi! It's ironic but this PC-ness is so f***ing fascist. In America they're especially touchy about Nazis and it's so Nazi! You go to LA and it's so segregated. It's very Nazi and the irony is they don't get it. They don't realise how Nazi they are about taking offence to mentioning the word Nazi." The swastika was still on Siouxsie's arm on September 20,1976, the day she made her singing debut after cajoling McLaren into letting the band she'd only tentatively started with Severin fill a vacant Pistols support slot on the first night of the 100 Club Punk Festival.
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so basically according to siouxsie, hating nazi's makes YOU seem like a nazi?? and wearing nazi symbolism to piss off and offend people is toootally punk (it's not. NAZI PUNKS F*** OFF).
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