Yeah, I agree that they are definitely pop now. That's really cool, honestly. Thank you!
Symphonic gothic metal, wow. Thank you! Would Evanescence be a part of the symphonic gothic metal subculture too?
Yeah, she's what got me wondering the differences in musical subcultures in the first place! She's goth, and she does a lot of research on goth, so when she told me that they weren't gothic rock I believed her buttt didn't quite know what else to use. Thanks for helping me with that!!
Oo thank you I will use that a lot from now on haha.
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Basically, that's very interesting, I've never really heard that opinion before. So, basically, let me see if I got this right, you think pop-punk was never really real emo, and bands that were considered emo (Fall Out Boy) weren't really true emo even then?
I've always heard Delain and Within Temptation being classified as "gothic rock", so I thought they were goth. However, my other friend also disagrees. She thinks that goth is more of The Cure and The Twilight Sad. I agree with this. I think perhaps bands like Delain and Within Temptation are more modern goth or perhaps even a whole different subculture that I'm not directly aware of. What would you define that sort of music as?
Oooh! Okay, that's interesting too! You're probably right, according to your definition, that I don't listen to "emo" music. The closest I might come to your definition of emo music is a turn directly from scene to goth. I go from Fall Out Boy to Delain and Within Temptation, taking a stop at Halestorm, Adelitas Way, and Get Scared, but I don't know if that would be considered emo.
However, back in around, 2005-2009, My Chemical Romance was very much considered "emo". Was emo always hardcore punk like you explained it or did it change over time? By your definition. What's your opinion on that?